2013 Turkey Red – 6 packs

28 02 2013

As mentioned yesterday, I was able to get in early enough and purchase some Turkey Red packs through Topps online promotion.  Topps had a pre-sale, selling packs for $20 each.  That sold out very quickly, and then a week later they had a regular sale for $25 each.  That also sold out very quickly.  I got in on the pre sale and ordered 6 packs.  I think my reasoning for 6 was free shipping.  If I remember right, getting over 100 bucks got you free shipping.  Since it was really $19.99, to get over that amount I needed 6.  And it seemed like a good number.  Here’s what the packs look like – they were really cardboard mini-boxes that I think are meant to remind you of some tobacco packaging from the early 20th century.

2013 Turkey Red pack

The way these work, there are 10 regular cards and 1 autograph in each pack.  I didn’t pull any major mojo, and I got quite a few more doubles than I would have preferred (43 singles, 17 doubles).

2013 Turkey Red cards

But the cards are really nice.  The design is nice, the pictures are pretty good.  The card stock seems better than some of the other retro releases Topps has (like Gypsy Queen).  I also like that these are only current players.

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And, naturally, I got 6 autographs.  I showed one of them yesterday.  And I got one double of the auto, too.  Here’s the 4 other autographs.  Nothing to write home about, but I think that’s the nature of this type of purchase – there’s a chance at something really nice, but you may not pull a huge hit.  I bought this product because of the base cards, though, which are very nice as I said above!

2013 Turkey Red autos


Turkey Red, 2013 Version

27 02 2013

Unlike a few other bloggers I’ve read about, I was lucky enough to make it on to Topps web site in time to purchase some packs (they’re more like mini-boxes) of the online-exclusive Turkey Red.

Here’s the first card.

2013 Turkey Red first card

Here’s the rest of the first pack.  Pulled both rookie of the year winners.

2013 Turkey Red first pack

Here’s the autograph.

2013 Turkey Red first pack auto

I’ll show some more tomorrow,

Ty Cobb the King – Panini Golden Age Mini comparisons

26 02 2013

I did minis with Broad Leaf backs and Croft’s Candy advertisements over the last two days, the last one is the rarer back out of the retro card backs available. Ty Cobb King of the Tobacco World – T-206 Cobb King of the Tobacco World This version of the the Ty Cobb T-206 portrait had some recent news in the baseball card world.  For comparison, the Honus Wagner T-206 card is the most valuable baseball card out there, and one of the two most famous cards in history.  It’s the “holy grail” of baseball cards.  But this card known as the “Cobb/Cobb” (as opposed to the Cobb/Broadleaf or the Cobb/Piedmont) is quite a bit rarer.  There are 16 known backs to the T-206 set, but only the red Ty Cobb portrait has this advertising back.  It’s an advertisement for a Ty Cobb brand of tobacco.  There’s a lot more to read about it here, but here’s a good article with the details.

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf Cobb back

Panini paid homage to this with a rare (1 per box) mini.  Each card, not just the Cobb, has a version.  Of course, Cobb is the only player who has a card with this back in the original T-206 set and the Panini Golden Age product. Picture 6 There’s also one mini you can get in the product that isn’t a parallel – it’s a direct throwback to the T-206 set.  The holy grail itself, a reprint of the Wagner card.

Panini Golden Age Wagner

There’s also one more mini – it’s a parallel that doesn’t have a direct correlation to a tobacco era set.  Panini put its own logo on the back of the cards, with a knight and a lance.  Kind of cool, though I don’t like 1 of 1 cards in general.

Ty Cobb Panini black mini front

Ty Cobb Panini black mini

Panini Golden Age Mini comparisons – Croft’s Candy

25 02 2013

The WordPress theme I’ve had for the entire existence of this blog went kaput today.  So I changed up.  Not sure if I’ll keep this one or not.  I like it ok – it does seem like it uses space better.

I did Broad Leaf backs yesterday, today I’ll compare another card back available in Panini Golden Age.  The Croft’s Candy cards were from the same tobacco era as the T206 set – but as the name indicates, they came from a different product.

Croft’s Candy – E92

The Croft’s Candy minis are harder to get than the Broad Leaf counterparts – I think 3 or so red ones per box and about 1 blue per box.

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf Croft back

The original Croft’s Candy cards were from the E-92 set, which also has a few different backs itself.  There were 50 cards from this set, which was issued in 1909.  These cards came with candy products – I think the others are Croft’s Cocoa, Dockman and Sons, and Nadja Caramel.  The different colors here is in fact historically accurate, unlike the Broad Leaf blue cards above.

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3 players are in both of these sets – 3 carryovers from yesterday’s post; Cobb, Crawford, and Eddie Collins.  There’s only one photo to pick from this set – unlike the T206 where some players have 5 or 6 photo variations.

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Panini Golden Age Mini comparisons – Broad Leaf backs

24 02 2013

Like many of the retro products that are meant to pay tribute (or profit off of, depending on your view) to tobacco era cards, Panini’s Golden Age set features mini parallels of the base set with multiple different types of card backs.  As with many of those products, I think there are probably too many.  But at least with this product, those card backs are based on a few real old-school card backs.

Broad Leaf backs – T206

The Broad Leaf minis are the most common – you’ll get a brown one in about 80% of packs.  I think the blue ones are 1 or 2 per box.

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf

The Broad Leaf back design used was part of the T-206 set otherwise known as “the Monster”.  Issued in 1909 and through 1911, T-206 cards came with multiple different advertising backs, depending on which pack of cigarettes the cards came from.  Panini has them in both blue and brown card backs, but I think they only exist in brown in the T-206 set.  There are also two versions – “Broad Leaf 350” depicting 350 different card subjects, and the rarer “Broad Leaf 460” noting that many cards.

Cobb and BroadLeaf back

5 players – Ty Cobb, Sam Crawford, Eddie Collins, Ed Cicotte and Chick Gandil – have cards in T-206 and in this product – so I thought I’d do a side-by-side comparison here.  There are a few different cards for most of these players in the T206 set, so I just picked the one I recognized the most.

I’m not positive, but that Cobb card kind of looks like it’s from his Philadelphia Athletics days.

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Cobb’s Hall of Fame teammate, Sam Crawford, is the all-time Triples Leader and an under-appreciated player from that era.

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Eddie Collins, a fellow member with Cobb of the 3,000-hit club, is also in the T206 set.  Collins was with Philadelphia (the A’s) at the time of the T-206 set.  Eddie was quite the young lad compared to his Panini card – when he was with the White Sox.

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Last were 2 of Eddie’s teammates.  Gandil and Cicotte were both banned from the game for their role in the 1919 World Series fix.  It makes sense that they are the two Black Sox in this set.  Gandil was the ring leader and Cicotte, as the team’s ace, was the guy the gamblers really needed in on the fix.

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Panini Golden Age – checking out the base cards

23 02 2013

Now that I’ve finished opening my box of Panini Golden Age, here’s a look at some of the base cards.  I haven’t had time to get a want list up on this stuff, and I’m not sure if it would matter – I haven’t seen too many bloggers write about this product.  I’m behind on getting back to people on trades anyways 🙂

I can kind of link each scan below to the next one, so that makes it kind of interesting.

This is a primarily baseball set, I think about 75% is of baseball players.  But there are two non-baseball “themes” the cards advertised.  The first was cards of the Three Stooges.  Supposedly these are the first cards of Larry, Moe and Curly. Another cool option to get into this set would have been Abbott and Costello, being a baseball set and all!

2012 Panini GA Three Stooges


Another group of three was the focus of the other non-baseball theme.  There are quite a few cards of horse racing legends – Triple Crown winners from horses to jockeys to owners.  There’s even an autographed insert of the three living Triple Crown jockeys (Cauthen, Turcotte, and Jean Cruguet).  I don’t have Cruguet or some of the others yet, but here’s six of them.

2012 Panini GA horse racing

I can connect this back to baseball pretty easily.  From horse racing’s Triple Crown to baseball’s version of that feat.  There are five Triple Crown winners in this set – Cobb, Williams, Hornsby, Foxx, Robinson and Yastrzemski.  This would be a cool theme to base a card set on, by the way.  There are contractual rights here, but if you pulled it all together that would be neat.  Panini has a Nap Lajoie card in the product – a relic – just not a base card, plus they have some teammates from Joe Medwick and Lou Gehrig.  Chuck Klein is another player from that era.  Mickey Mantle would be tough, I’m sure, and the others are either really old (Paul Hines, Tip O’Neill) or still active (Miguel Cabrera).

2012 Panini GA Triple Crown baseball

Ty Cobb is one of those players, and he used to be the All-Time Hit King.  Until Pete Rose passed him in 1985.  There are 3 members of the Big Red Machine in this set – Rose, Bench and Perez.

2012 Panini GA base Big Red Machine

Rose is also on baseball’s banned list.  And this set also features the whole Black Sox team.  I got seven of the infamous 8, and I did get a mini of Lefty Williams, so here they are.

2012 Panini GA Black Sox

Eddie Collins was on that 1919 White Sox team – he eventually made the Hall of Fame after notching over 3,000 hits.  Here’s his card and a few other Hall of Famers from this set.  Burleigh Grimes is a pretty cool name here – one you don’t see a lot – the last legal spitballer.

2012 Panini GA Collins and HOFers

From Hall of Fame players, there are two Hall of Fame broadcasters.  Joe Garagiola and Tony Kubek were both good players, but they won the Ford Frick award in their post-baseball careers.

2012 Panini GA Ford Frick award winners

From them, I’ll move back away from baseball.  Broadcasters report on the game as it happens – but these guys investigated and reported on Watergate while it was happening.

2012 Panini GA Woodward and Bernstein

OK, the last couple were pictures I couldn’t really link in.  There are three more Hall of Fame Tigers in the set (other than Cobb), I thought that was cool.  And there are a few athletes outside of baseball that I thought had pretty cool cards.  I’m a former high school mile runner, and the Jim Ryun card is particularly cool.

2012 Panini GA other sports 2012 Panini GA Tigers

2012 Panini Golden Age box break

22 02 2013

I ordered just one of these boxes; in hindsight, I enjoyed opening these enough that I could have justified 2 boxes.  Instead I’m buying some of the inserts and other cards on eBay, so that’s cool.  As with most of the retro sets I’ve opened, I like a lot of things about this set.  The base cards aren’t based off of any particular set, but they do have a nice design and a tobacco era feel.  The inserts are pretty cool. Though I wish you got a couple more per box, I’d rather just have 5 inserts and 2 hits than 4x that many and water it down.  It’s kind of cool getting an insert and thinking it is a tough pull!

My idea / suggestion for this product – the Golden Age idea is certainly painted with a broad brush.  There are athletes from as early as the 1890’s, and as late as the 1970’s.  This is the first year Panini has done this, and I understand the business idea behind this, but wouldn’t parceling this out over a few years be really neat?  For example, if the first year of Panini Golden Age had a them from the “tobacco era” for baseball cards – 1890 through 1920 or so.  Then in year 2, you did the 1920’s and 1930’s.  Then, follow that up with the 1940’s and 1950’s, and you could wrap it up with the 60’s and 70’s.  That would be a cool way to do it, and I’d certainly be in for that!

Still, for a set where Panini doesn’t have license, I can’t complain.  This box was less than 70 bucks delivered, and I had a fun time opening it up.

First up – here’s the box topper.  These are the Ferguson Bakery pennants.  They fit perfectly into the 4-card Ultra Pro pages, so that’s good.  There are yellow and blue versions (no rarer than the other) and you also could have pulled a 5 x 7 movie poster card.  I’m going to try to collect these, so I’m glad I got a pennant instead of the movie.  In person, these are really cool – the pennants are made with felt and the picture is embedded in a neat way.

2012 Panini Golden Age box Dickey Pennant

Here’s 20 of the 24 the mini parallels I got, so you can get a feel for what the set looks like.  I’ll do a post tomorrow showing off some of the base cards.

2012 Panini Golden Age box minis

Here are the different card backs you can get, which are modeled after the card backs from a few different tobacco-era sets.

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf Croft back

2012 Panini GA box minis Broadleaf Cobb back

There is one insert that doesn’t have any basis in previous baseball sets.  Headlines is a newspaper-themed set that covers some of the bigger news moments from the era covered by the Golden Age product.

2012 Panini GA box Headlines

The 2 other inserts you can get are based on the 1934-36 Play Ball set and the 1907 Newark Evening News.  I got Brooks Robinson and Hayne Mansfield in the Play Ball set, plus Joe Garagiola for the Newark Evening insert.

2012 Panini GA box Newark Evening Batter Up

2012 Panini GA box Newark Evening Garagiola

Finally, here’s the hits.  The relic set is the Museum Relic set – I got something from the great Charlie Chaplin.  These are interesting, not sure if I’ll be keeping this one or not.

2012 Panini GA box Chaplin relic

My autograph was one I will be keeping – Ron Turcotte, the jockey who rode Secretariat to horse racing history.

2012 Panini GA box Turcotte auto

Below are the “stats” for the box.

24 packs per box * 6 cards per pack + 1 box topper +1 extra card = 146 cards

112 of the 146 card base set (76.7% set completion)

2 doubles

1 Ferguson Bakery Pennants Yellow (B. Dickey)

18 Minis, Broad Leaf Brown

3 Minis, Croft’s Candy Red

1 Mini, Broad Leaf Blue

1 Mini, Croft’s Candy Blue

1 Mini, Ty Cobb King of Tobacco

2 Headlines

2 Batter Up

1 Newark Evening World Supplements

1 Historic Signatures (R. Turcotte)

1 Museum Age Memorabilia (C. Chaplin)